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August 18, 2015

Thomas Drake Interview - Transcripts - Series of Five (5)


Espionage Act Case USA
(One of Few)

Thomas Drake
US Air Force / short stint CIA  /  US Navy veteran
ex NSA / computers / whistleblower
 
"I flew in RC-135s, listening in on the Warsaw Pact. I became--the target country in which I became an expert as a crypto linguist was East Germany."
" ... says he was targeted by the NSA because he exposed that the agency had intel that could have prevented the 9/11 attacks and because he blew the whistle on a massive secret surveillance program aimed at Americans -   August 2, 2015"
"In 2010 the government alleged that he 'mishandled' documents, one of the few such Espionage Act cases in U.S. history. His defenders claim that he was instead being persecuted for challenging the Trailblazer Project."  [therealnews]
Transcript Interview #1 - http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14393

Transcript Interview #2 - http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14395


Transcript Interview #3 - http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14399


Transcript Interview #4 - http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14405


Transcript Interview #5 - http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=14423
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SUMMARY
Part 1
NSA
Key stakeholder
= Congress, particularly the intelligence committees
 
Raised objections to NSA having knowledge re  9/11 & not making use of that knowledge to prevent 9/11

Objections internal - then public.

Waste of multibillion-dollar mass surveillance program / he thought violated the Fourth Amendment

USA - dragnet electronic surveillance

indicted whistleblower  /  no prison

NSA - had 9/11 knowledge  / at issue
  • what NSA actually knew
  • what they should have known
  • what they didn't share
  • what they kept hidden
  • info they never even discovered until later 
 "I consider NSA quite culpable.  ... extraordinarily culpable. And they've been covering up their culpability ever since"

*NSA did not not share intel properly with national command authorities
  • massive multibillion-dollar fraud  
  • mass surveillance regime put into place in the deepest of secrecy

NSA didn't like Drake 'speaking truth to power" - witness various investigations.

2007 FBI raid of house and office (National Defence University).

Indictment
 
"I was very publicly indicted on a ten felony count indictment, five under the Espionage Act, facing 35 years in prison."


April 2010 was an exciting month:
  • April 5th, 2010 - here
  • WikiLeaks releases Collateral Murder video
  • April 15, 2010 - here
  • Thomas Drake indicted
"DRAKE: 
My eyes were wide open coming into NSA. Some people have this idea that somehow I was naive coming into NSA. In fact, I was actually--my sanity was questioned as to whether or not I really wanted to join NSA.

JAY: And your first day of the NSA is actually 9/11.

DRAKE: First day I reported. I actually took the oath prior. It was all in processing. But the first day that I reported to my new job was the morning of 9/11."

Post 9/11 US govt operating in equivalent of secret marital law

"verbal authority from the White House, authorizing NSA to start spying on the U.S. on an extraordinary scale, starting with phone numbers and special arrangements of certain telephone companies, starting with AT&T"

" ... eyewitness to the subversion of the Constitution. "

Oath to defend "Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

[NSA] "... had what they call cast-iron coverage on the Yemeni switchboard, the safe house. They'd been monitoring that safe house since at least 1996. It's an absolute lie of the U.S. government to say that we didn't know about the two hijackers in San Diego, for example. Absolute lie."

"... when confronted with the prospect of fessing up, NSA chose instead to obstruct the 9/11 congressional investigation, play dumb, and keep the truth buried, including the fact that it knew about all inbound and outbound calls to the safe house switchboard in Yemen. "
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COMMENT

That's it for my lame summary.

I'm not really into the 9/11 stuff and I'm not up for the summary of another 4 parts of the interview.

Thought it was good to post here for anybody who might be more interested than I am.

Might just quickly skim a few more bits of the interviews to see if there's anything earth-shattering in them that I might otherwise miss.  lol



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