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August 08, 2016

Video: Gad Saad & Ingrid Carlqvist - Sweden Mass Immigration



SWEDEN



Gad Saad
Jewish-Lebanese (Canada)
evolutionary-behavioural scientist
chats with
Ingrid Carlqvist
(Sweden),
writer/activist Gatestone Institute NGO
re:  MASS IMMIGRATION
Video:  13 July 2016


NOTES
[These are my own notes, pursuant to my understanding / these are not dead-accurate direct quotes (unless marked with quote marks) ... although I do often use the words of the parties throughout the notes (if that makes sense).  Phrases that I have chosen to use to convey my understanding of this content are marked in square parentheses. 

NOTE:  this is not 100% of what was discussed.  ]


Gad Saad Chats with Ingrid Carlqvist
Video:  13 July 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEsa0dBBJOo

SWEDEN
Ingrid Carlqvist
"Since the millennium, we have taken in almost 1 million people to this country, and the Swedish population has decreased [by] 25,000. 

So, now, 30% of the people living in Sweden have some kind of different background.

So we are fast becoming a minority in our own country."

  • 1975 - 400 rapes
  • 1975 - same year Swedish parliament decided that Sweden would become 'multicultural', without telling anyone.
  • 2015 - 7000 rapes
  • Last rape study involving demographics and rapes 2005.
(figures available to researchers, rather than ordinarily available data)
Rape increase since:
  • is not talked about.
  • no further study done.
  • journalists do not report on this, as they claim that it has no relevance.


Ingrid Carlqvist says it definitely has relevance, especially with these young girls that have been brainwashed with the idea that all people are the same and that there is no difference between Swedish guys and [third world males].
Example given:

So, a lot of young girls think that they can, for example, go to the residence of a [third world male] to have a cup of tea, and where the young girls then say, "Sorry, I've changed my mind, I don't want to have sex", expecting the same [passive / accepting  / civilised] response as that ordinarily forthcoming from Swedish males.

However, young Swedish girls end up getting raped in those circumstances.

But the victims don't know this, because the authorities and the journalists have hidden facts from people, and Carlqvist thinks that's a crime.


Politicians and journalists are hiding the fact that foreigners are grossly over-represented in rapes, murders and violent crime against native Swedes.

Gad Saad

Two problems West is facing:

1.  solve problem now peacefully; OR
2.  solve problem down the line with a lot of violence.



Gad Saad
who knows house-to-house fighting (escaped Lebanon civil war) conveyed:
the world is not static and that people come of their stupor, and when they do, the things that the authorities and the media, that is covering up, and does not want to happen (or don't believe will happen) will happen.

Ingrid Carlqvist conveys:  for so many years, the voices opposed to effects of mass immigration, who speak their minds about mass immigration and Islam, and how it is taking away democracy and free speech from Sweden, have been called 'racist' by the establishment, that the accusation no longer has impact.

Ingrid Carlqvist says if the authorities go on filling Sweden with these dangerous people, and if they go on giving taxpayer money to these foreigners and their organisations who are working on having Sweden Islamised while assuming [political and social] power in Sweden, one day all Swedes will come to the conclusion that they do not want foreigners, and that the policy of the Swedish authorities is in fact creating what the authorities claim they don't want.

Ingrid Carlqvist refers to the bowl of M&Ms analogy:  here's a bowl of M&Ms; only a few are poisoned; would you like to partake?

Gad Saad says:  as clear as the existence of gravity, Islam has tenets that are incompatible with Western values, despite the numerous examples of peaceful, tolerant, kind Muslims.

However, many people fall victim to cognitive bias [and do not see the incompatibility].

What is of concern tends to be the radical minority, and the peaceful majority does not matter. 

Ingrid Carlqvist

The radical minority receive money, have the ear of the government and [are public representatives of the community].

There are no public calls for reformation of the religion [ie tenets incompatible with Western liberal secular democracy].

Concern is what will happen when these groups have their own politicians elected.


Gad Saad

Of the immigrant masses, a small percentage will be dangerous radicals / linked to ISIS.

However, that percentage is not as important as the percentage of the many thousands who arrive with values that could not be any more different than the foundational values that are dearest to us.

Fourteen hundred years of history suggests it is a large majority of arrivals from those countries who abhor those values.

The larger problem is that the majority referred to above will undeniably change the character of our societies, if they hold those opposing values.  However, there is now way of determining whether arrivals support liberal values.  That, according to Gad Saad, is the fundamental problem.


Ingrid Carlqvist

Being caught lying is the one thing that can cost a politician his job.  Swedes don't like lying.  It's a very deep value for Scandinavians.

According to Ingid Carlqvist, her conversations with Imams and other Islamic persons indicate that this demographic holds an entirely different attitude to the telling of truth. 

Truth is considered valuable and is dependent upon other considerations, such as overall motivations and desired outcomes, if I understand correctly.

Gad Saad points out that there is the Muslim religious scripture that permits lies in the furtherance of the aims of the religion.


33:48
Gad Saad considers Tariq Ramadan much more dangerous than Osama bin Laden, because he is sophisticated and is a professor at a distinguished university.  If I understand correctly, what Tariq Ramadan says in Arabic would be hair-raising, if understood by those that are taken in by his polished French and English academic talks.


EDIT: sorry, my mistake. What Gad Saad said is:
"... and when he speaks from this side of his mouth in French or English, and then turns and speaks from this side of his mouth in Arabic [gestures] - and I speak Arabic, so you can't say I don't understand ... it's misquoted, it's mistranslated - it's not pretty.
And there's a million of these examples.
There are organisations that do nothing but translate these things, and usually when I share these things with people, what do you think is the first reaction? Well, of course, "this organisation is run by Jews", it's "run by Zionists", so it's an impenetrable wall of irrationality ..."

Ingrid Carlqvist mentions the Muslims above non-Muslims social attitude, and there is a prejudice against all sorts of other religions groups as well as Jews.

Ingrid Carlqvist

"The big problem, I think, is that there are big Jewish organisations working together with the government to have more and more mass immigration.  When Jews say, you have to be tolerant, remember [the] holocaust, people listen; the Swedish government listens; the authorities listen; the organisations listen.  And that is really a big problem ..."

Gad Saad
has a theory in relation to that position:

A dhimmi is not a second-class citizen, but a third-class citizen under Islamic rule, whereby, typically, people of the book (Ahl al-Kitab) - Jews and Christians (with earlier monotheistic traditions) - could under certain circumstances be not forced to convert and not be killed, and allowed to live under Islamic protection.  But, of course, there is a price (depending on the context, nasty or not).  But the rules are very clear, as codified in the religious text.

Includes paying a protection tax (ie. 'jizya' - a tribute).

Gad Saad says that a lot of folks from those countries refer to the generous social welfare system as the contemporary jizya.

Gad Saad thinks that perhaps the Jewish [groups that support the mass immigration] take on the defeated dhimmi status, of lying low and not rocking the boat (if I understand correctly); and that this is like [an ingratiating] behaviour in the face of future threat.  Note:  he did not say that specifically, it is my understanding of what he said as an explanation for the Jewish groups that promote mass immigration, or that's what I got out of it.

Ingrid Carlqvist asks what will happen if we carry on being a dhimmi, and states we will lose everything.

Ingrid Carlqvist states that when Swedes wake up to their country being destroyed by mass immigration, who are they going to turn on, and lists:  the politicians, the media and the Jews.

Gad Saad conveys that the Jews are an easy target.

Gad Saad then asks how do we navigate through the realities that we are talking about.

Is there a way to maintain humanity, have reasonably open borders and recognise these fears.

Ingrid Carlqvist says as long as there is welfare states, such states will be a magnet.

Carlqvist says this is not fair, because Swedes have paid very high taxes towards a welfare system with the intent that senior citizens would be taken care of in future and that their children would receive a good education.  But their families are not receiving the care that they need.

eg.  Swedish woman in labour; no beds in hospital; sent home overnight; returns next day & baby had died, in the absence of medical attention (which could not be provided because resources have been overstretched as a result of immigration).

Carlqvist says this is an example of happening in Sweden because of mass immigration.

Carlqvist suggestion is to put pressure on the neighbouring countries:  Saudi Arabia, Qaatar, Dubai - enormously rich countries, who can take refugees.  Carlqvist says that if there is a crisis in Norway or Denmark, Sweden could gladly take all of them.


Gad Saad 

Currently, these Middle Eastern states have not taken co-religionist Ummah refugees (Arabic 'community', ie collective Islamic community), that share the same culture, speak the same language and share the same religion.

But a complete different culture, with different values, thousands of kilometres away (meaning Sweden), somehow it is incumbent upon them to exhibit endless empathy and nurturance.



Gad Saad wants to introduce an evolutionary/biological argument to what is being discussed.

Gad Saad is an evolutionary-behavioural scientist.

Two Darwinian modules:

1.  Kin Selection:  genes extended not only by directly reproducing, but by investing in extended family.
    *this type of relationship attunement is evident across species and organisms

2.  Reciprocity:  
give-and-receive (social investment) behaviour of social species
    eg.  if one saves another from drowning would expect to be saved in event of future threat

Gad Saad thinks both of these mechanisms are completely violated in the context of mass immigration.

1.  It is not natural for people to exhibit infinite empathy to people that are thousands of miles away that are as removed as possible from their in-group mindset.
[comment:  it is not merely a matter of in-group 'mindset'; it is a matter of biological heritage, group development, group psychology, social/historic heritage, kinship etc, and it affects every aspect of the social and political order in the present and the future.]

Gad Saad says:  that's just not how human nature is built.

Gad Saad says, you are therefore forcing a reality that is not consistent with human nature.

2.  The idea of reciprocity:  Gad Saad uses Syria as an example and says he looks forward to the day that Syrian society will reciprocate to Swedes, and concludes that this is not going to happen.

Gad Saad therefore contends that the [mass immigration mechanism] is therefore always unidirectional and refers to:  "the West, the white man".

In his case, he came from Lebanon (Jewish), and he says he hopes he has done a lot to reciprocate in terms of his Canadian identity and defence of Canadian values.

Gad Saad says the reality is that most of the mass immigration from these cultures will never be in a position to reciprocate and, hence, you have a breakdown of the relationship.
[comment:  reciprocation does not matter in terms of mass immigration.  mass immigration is dissolution of one's society and there is no giving back what is destroyed by mass immigration, irrespective of where the mass immigration is from. Mass immigration to European societies is damaging to European people.  It amounts to illegitimate transfer of spacial, social and political rights and heritage of European peoples, to those that have no right to same.  Obviously, this is from the European perspective.  However, the same principles apply to any other society that is potentially demographically altered by mass immigration. ]

Mounting the Effeminate, Submissive West

Gad Saad informs us that those from this culture view Western society as a female to be mounted, so a lot of the values that the Swedes would consider to be the marks of a wonderful person, are detested and viewed as weak and submissive by the outside culture with different values.


Ingrid Carlqvist

The problem is that there are so many still in denial.

Governments, politicians, journalists are caught up in denial and refusal to listen, citing 'racism', declaring that everyone is the same and denying that culture is important.

Gad Saad

In many places in Europe, we are starting to see people waking up.

In some cases, it is bad discourse.  But in most cases, it is hardly far-right.

They pretend that Geert Wilders is a 'Nazi', while he embraces all that is liberal. 

Ingrid Carlqvist

There are no 'right-wing' parties in Sweden, although some may call themselves 'right'.

Everyone was saying that the Sweden Democrats are 'Nazis', 'fascist', 'racist', but now - after last year, after 163,000 asylum seekers and not a village in Sweden that doesn't have an asylum house - everybody sees the problem and everybody gets affected.  Everybody knows someone who has been raped, abused or beaten up.

In November, the Swedish authorities suddenly decided to introduce border controls, and just the other week, they took the decision on much stricter asylum rules.

The authorities are now implementing the policies of the 'Nazi' Sweden Democrats, and in so doing they have potentially detracted from the Sweden Democrats possible attraction to voters, as many people have been appeased by what little the Swedish authorities have subsequently done (after 10 years of Sweden Democrats lobbying against mass immigration), and the voters may be happy with this status quo (versus turning to Sweden Democrats), as many people have been led to believe that the Sweden Democrats are 'Nazis'.

Ingrid Carlqvist suggests:

Talk about feelings to your family and people you know.  For so long, dissenting voices have talked statistics and facts, while the left has exploited feelings.
  • How does it feel that your old mother cannot afford to buy food because the pension is so low?
  • How does it feel when your children speak Swedish with a foreign accent?
It's horrible.  What happened to my Sweden, my country?

That is the beginning.  After that, you can start filling them in on facts, statistics and everything, and then they will wake up.

Go to Gatestone and read about her articles on the Islamisation of Sweden, says Ingrid Carlqvist.

Ingrid Carlqvist


Gad Saad

Invasion of Castrato Europe
What Could Possibly Go Wrong?
Gad Saad Chats With:
Nicolai Sennels
Danish Psychologist
LINK | here

Gad Saad
Political Correctness
Limits the Free Exchange of Ideas on Campus
LINK | here


SAMPLE ONLY
[full-time job for a team in order to keep up with this pace of cultural enrichment]


Police patrol lured to immigrant-dominated neighbourhood Lindängen in Malmo & Police Car Set on Fire
unknown perpetrators also set more cars alight elsewhere in Malmo
  • cars have burned in Rosengård during night
  • several cars have been set on fire on Hårds way
  • more arson reports elsewhere in Sweden
https://archive.is/zUyZt


Facebook Censorship  / Political Suppression
Malmo bus seat communication & other
http://archive.is/ycb4l


Denmark
film footage shows  five Somalis in unprovoked attack, jump on and beat up 13-year-old at a railway station in Fredericia in Jutland, Denmark.
https://archive.is/H14R6


Adult refugee 'child' is sentenced to care for killing Alexandra Mezher
...  claims to be 15 years and was residing at HVB home for unaccompanied refugee children even though he, as stated in the judgment, is a grown man.
sentence:  psychiatric care for aggravated manslaughter and extremely serious assault.
https://archive.is/e4KGQ


Source | @ingridcarlqvist




COMMENT

I feel rather smug because I'm awake.  LOL ... wake up, dummies.
Once that feeling dissipates, what you are left with is a sense of horror and a conviction that there is no refuge, no remaining intact European society or safety left anywhere for Europeans.
Relief  that there is still some normal people out there, and that they've produced this video, also fades.
Mass immigration facilitated on the scale that establishes settlements of  non-European aliens from backward, and often extremely violent and chaotic societies, that have inexplicably been introduced to European societies, is a crime. 

In my opinion, the issue is not merely confined to absence of support for 'liberal values'.  The cultural and other issues are way broader and deeper, and much more serious and complex than merely being opposed to what is referred to as 'liberal values', which nonetheless must be addressed urgently by those that are in denial and in danger.
However, when it comes to mass immigration and significant demographic change, the nature of one's values is rendered irrelevant by virtue of large-scale alien demographic transfer itself. 
Whatever the nature of mass immigration and its originating source, mass immigration is a demographic, political and social problem that arises from what is, in fact, invasion and existential threat.
Look at what has happened to the devastated European demographic in America, and look at the social costs to Europeans in American society.   Examine the very model of mass immigration and the costs to European man.  Examine the sadism of inter-racial crime, examine brutal murders of Europeans, examine exceedingly violent crime and the scale of such crime, examine race riots, examine the danger to police, and examine statistics of rape committed against white women in America, to see the results of 'multicultural' and multiracial settlements that have evolved from capitalism's profiteering and/or from liberal ideology later adopted by capitalism and its intelligentsia; disaster and danger manifested in the absence of mitigation by common sense and common sense policy.
Any significant demographic change is a change in social composition and a change that has more immediate, as well as far-reaching and serious consequences; consequences that can only become more acute with the progression of time and with inevitable ongoing progression of demographic change.

Any sizeable demographic change in European society is a threat to European vital interests and a threat to Europeans. 
Obviously, the same principles apply to any other society.

Where arrangements the result of mass immigration or large-scale population transfer are unsatisfactory and dangerous even in circumstances where there is no breakdown in law and order, imagine the danger that awaits the public in societies of disparate peoples when there is civil unrest, or in the event of war.
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