Mark Steyn: Multicultural Nullity & Fall of European Civilisation

Mark Steyn, Fall of European Civilisation Couple of Videos I watched + Summary (below) Mark Steyn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26kKDCCV9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBRKKqVc5CE Mark Steyn quote: "The problem that Europe faces is that Bosnia's demographic profile is now the model for the entire continent." Steyn was a supporter of invasion of Iraq in 2003, according to Wikipedia. However, it is military interventions of the Americans (& their Gulf Arab & Western allies) that have created conditions providing the Western ruling classes with the pretext for mass population movement. Rough Summary #2 Video End of the global post WWII order Europe too weak to resist transformation into Eurabia  NUMBERED FACTORS RE DEMISE OF EUROPE   #1 - Declining European Population Demographic decline.  Collapsed birthrates.  Upside-down family trees. Western Europe imported large Muslim population. DEMOGRAPHIC DEMISE example: 90% Population 'A' have 1.3 children per couple 10% Ethnic Minority 'B' have 3.5 children in two generations, the ethnic minority will have the same number of grandchildren Social democratic state blamed (high tax) plus children are economic liability result:  childlessness or well below replacement level European birth rates "The European welfare state depends on economic growth and population growth. The former is now barely detectable, and the latter is already in reverse."  Mark Steyn --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I DISAGREE WITH STEYN.  THE FAULT LIES WITH CAPITALISM FROM BOTH AN ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL ASPECT. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MENTION OF THE  FOLLOWING INDICATES (TO ME)  THAT THE PROSPECT OF A 'MODERATE' OR SECULAR ISLAM IS DEAD: Kemalist Turkey is dead Kemalists had birthrates resembling European birthrates Rural population retained Islamic birthrates & moved to cities Kemalist Turkey is finished [see Mustafa Kemal Atatürk - 1937 / anti-imperialist, bourgeois nationalist revolution in Turkey ]  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE:  WHAT STEYN DOES NOT MENTION IS THAT THE US-ANGLO ALLIANCE HAS A HISTORY OF UNDERMINING & DESTROYING ALL SECULAR (THUS SOCIALIST & NATIONALIST)  ARAB / MUSLIM STATES THE US-ANGLO / WESTERN CAPITALIST ALLIANCE IS ALSO ALLIED WITH THE FUNDAMENTALIST, WHO SPONSOR FUNDAMENTALISM & TERROR --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #2 - Europe:  crippling pension liabilities "France, as we know it, cannot survive under current birthrate." Mark Steyn: "Well, it depends on what you think a nation is.  If a nation is just a zip code.  If a nation is a gate at LAX and it just happens to be an accumulation of the people who are standing around the gate waiting for whatever until their flight is called, then, yes, there will be a France and there will be a Netherlands and there will be an Italy and a Germany. But, if you think that a nation is the accumulated inheritance of its past, then there will be no France, and there will be no Germany and there will be no Italy." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE PART ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK CONSTITUTES A NATION SPEAKS TO ME.  IT RIPS RIGHT INTO THE VERY CORE OF BEING TO SOMETHING PRIMAL.    KIND OF LIKE THOSE AZTEC SACRIFICES THAT RIP OUT THE BEATING HEART. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EVERYTHING IS AFFECTED BY MASS IMMIGRATION NOTHING REMAINS SACRED Describes examples of social problems and changes. Steyn goes on to say: "... So, it affects everything.  It transforms.  You can't have this kind of population transformation without having a broader CULTURAL, SOCIO-ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL TRANSFORMATION, too." How will those aspects change what we think of today as France? Discussion moves to story of history of France. Discussion moves to topic of Antwerp. Mark Steyn: "If you take, for example, Antwerp in Belgium, 40% of the children in Antwerp elementary schools select Islamic studies as their religious studies class, versus 26% for Catholic and roughly the same number for non confessional studies. So, in other words, that is the future of Antwerp.  So in 20 years' time, all those grade-schoolers are going to be in their late 20s and early 30s ... In France, most of those Catholic churches will be closed.  Maybe some of them will be retained as heritage sites, but they're not going to be living churches. EUROPE'S FUTURE CAN BE SEEN IN CONSTANTINOPLE ST. SOPHIA'S CATHEDRAL Mark Steyn: If you think what was once Saint Sophia's Cathedral in Istanbul, it's now a museum.  So, you can go and see what was once there, but it's no longer a going concern, and that's what those Catholic churches will be like. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOKYO COMMENT: IT IS NOT MERELY A FUTURE OF EMPTY 'MUSEUM CHURCHES' EUROPE FACES THAT CONSTANTINOPLE IS NOW KNOWN AS ISTANBUL THAT ANATOLIA IS NOW KNOWN AS TURKEY THAT THIS IS THE SEAT OF CHRISTENDOM THAT THIS WAS THE SEAT OF THE REMAINING ROMAN EMPIRE AND THAT ONLY A FEW HUNDRED YEARS LATER AN OVERWHELMING MUSLIM MAJORITY IN WHICH THE FEW REMAINING CHRISTIANS ARE PERSECUTED IS WHAT HAS BECOME OF ANATOLIA & CONSTANTINOPLE CONVEYS A VISION OF EUROPE'S FUTURE MORE BLUNTLY --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EUROPEAN HERITAGE & HISTORY DENIED "You talk about the history that's taught in French schools.  They're not going to be teaching the Second World War in French schools, because it's going to be problematic ..."     Dutch schools skip WWII     British schools skip the Crusades Mark Steyn: "So, when you have this kind of, essentially, population transformation, it changes not only the present and the future, but it even changes the past, because the past has to be retrospectively brought into line with some kind of new national narrative." #3 - Civilisational Exhaustion "A suicide bomber may be a weak weapon, but not against a weak culture", explain that. Mark Steyn: "... we have expensive toys.  We've got the best kind of aircraft carriers, we've got the best kind of tanks, we've got the smart bombs, and that's a short-term advantage. If you want to pick a fight on a battlefield, if you want to pick a fight that is slightly more ambiguous, that never actually calls out the force you're up against onto the battlefield for a big tank battle, then what matters is will.   What matters is will, and they have bet that the West does not have the will to defend itself, and they see that every day of the week. For example, in the way Comedy Central, just a couple of days ago, caved in and censored the show South Park. ...  Ten years ago South Park was able to do a Muhammed joke and it went on the air, and it was broadcast, and nobody threatened to kill anybody over it. What has happened since then is that we have taught these people the lesson that if you threaten to kill, and if you threaten to murder, and if you threaten to intimidate, you don't actually have to kill or murder anyone, the culture will just cave, anyway." Proposed causes of 'civilisational exhaustion' identified: 1.  Post-Christian Churches According to Steyn, the West is exhausted because it has ceased to believe in anything and fail to realise that European civilisation springs from a narrow source. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  *I DISAGREE VERY STRONGLY WITH MARK STEYN RE EUROPEAN ART, MUSIC, CULTURE IN MY VIEW, CHRISTIANITY IS *NOT* THE WELLSPRING OF EUROPEAN CREATION EUROPEAN CREATION EMANATES FROM THE  UNIQUE HERITAGE AND SPIRIT OF EUROPEAN MAN THAT EUROPEAN SPIRIT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A POLITICO- RELIGOUS FOREIGN IMPORT IMPOSED ON EUROPEAN MAN BY THE POWER USURPING CHURCHMEN AND THEIR POLITICAL ALLIES But I agree with the need for retention of European culture, however it was shaped by history.  That culture does not have to have anything to do with religion.  The culture can be simply based on traditions.  Alternatively,  Europeans could look back to their more distant ancestors for identity. Christianity is finished.   The only value Christianity has is as a facet of European history.   --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Steyn: "The idea of trashing our civilisation in the interests of, I think, a multicultural nullity, I think has been a disaster.  I think it's left a big hole where our identity ought to be." null nil, naught, nay, nix, no, non Indo-European roots:  'ne' eg. Old Norse 'ne' fm. Germanic *ne-, *na eg. Russian:  Нет ('njet') eg. Serbian:  Не ('ne') eg. Swedish:  Nej 2.  The expectation of total choice in commercial transactions, while considering it perfectly normal for the state to make all the choices in respect of their healthcare. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ONCE AGAIN, I DISAGREE WITH STEYN HEALTH CARE IS A PUBLIC RESPONSIBILITY; AS IS SOCIAL WELFARE STEYN SEES BOTH SOCIAL WELFARE & PUBLIC HEALTHCARE AS THE PROBLEM.  THIS IS A TYPICAL AMERICAN VIEW. I BELIEVE HE IS WRONG IT IS CAPITALISM THAT IS THE PROBLEM IT IS CAPITALISM THAT SHOULD TAKE THE 'HIT' IF AN ONEROUS PENSION LIABILITY HAS DEVELOPED OR IF ECONOMY SHRINKS WHERE POPULATION IS IN DECLINE ETC., AS IT IS CAPITALISM THAT HAS REAPED OBSCENE GAINS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE MASSES AND GENERATIONS OF MASSES THAT ARE IN DEBT TO CAPITALISM WHILE LEAVING THE MASSES CRUMBS IT IS CAPITALISM THAT HAS NOW DIVESTED THE MASSES OF EVEN THEIR NATIONS. IRRESPECTIVE OF ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL SYSTEMS: IT IS SOCIETY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CORRALLED WITH PRIVATE LAND OWNERSHIP  IT IS PRIVATE LAND OWNERSHIP, ELITES  & CAPITALISM  THAT HAS MADE CAPTIVES OF FREE PEOPLE IT IS THIS SYSTEM OF PRIVATISATION AND COMMERCIAL EXPLOITATION OF LAND, FARMING AND EXPLOITATION OF ONCE-FREE MAN AS A CAPTIVE PRODUCER-CONSUMER SLAVE-LABOURER (THE HUMAN FARM ANIMAL) THAT IS OWED HEALTHCARE ie. IT IS A SYSTEM OF ASSUMPTION OF PRIVATE POSSESSION OF LAND & ALIENATION OF MAN FROM THE LAND & SURVIVAL ON LAND AS A FREE MAN, IN SOCIETIES THAT WERE FREE, AND TURNING MAN INTO A WORK ANIMAL, EXISTING FOR THE PROFIT OF THE POWERFUL FEW BUT I SEE SOCIETY AS STRICTLY BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR ONLY ITS OWN - PRESERVING ITS OWN & THEREBY PRESERVING ITS OWN CONTINUED EXISTENCE & CONTINUED EXISTENCE OF ITS OWN --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USA has some strange conditions: Obama has said that if you are 26 years old, you can stay on your parents' healthcare plan. It is an extended adolescence. Steyn says this is like declaring that at 26 you are still a child. Steyn believes we have created a society of permanent adolescents. [ ON THIS SUBJECT, I WOULD AGREE WITH STEYN.  I'M CLOSER TO DEATH THAN ADOLESCENCE AND I'M STILL WAITING TO 'GROW UP'.  LOL ] Steyn's argument:  when you isolate your citizenry from the most basic pressures of life, what kind of citizenry do you wind up with? "We are creating, essentially, a society of permanent adolescents," Steyn says. The media, including the establishment mouthpiece, The Guardian, referred to Mark Steyn 'alarmist'. "The progressive mind denies there's anything to argue about," Steyn says. Mark Steyn: "However, the argument is not about the destination; it is only about the length of the journey [to Europe becoming Muslim]." The same point that was made about the departure of blacks (I think) in New Orleans IS NOT PERMITTED to be made about what is white flight in Europe [he doesn't use that term, but that's what it is]. Discuss various and move onto discussing the potential 'reform' of Islam and the West creating a moderating impact and creating conditions for reform. The lesson is, if you are not on ideological offence you will get rolled (see moderate Islamic countries that have fallen to radical Islamists in past). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IN MY VIEW, REFORM IS NOT ON THE TABLE 1.  EUROPEAN SOCIETY DOES NOT HAVE THE TIME 2.  THE FOREIGN IDEOLOGY IS RESISTANT TO CHANGE 3.  RELIGIONS ARE NOT REFORMED PEACEFULLY 4.  REFORM OF RELIGION IS IRRELEVANT TO EUROPEAN GENOCIDE RELIGIOUS REFORM IS NOT EVEN WORTH CONSIDERING: SOCIETY DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH AN ALIEN POPULATION WITH MASSIVELY HIGHER BIRTH RATES COUPLED WITH MASSIVELY SHORT EUROPEAN BIRTHRATES REFORM TAKES HUNDREDS OF YEARS, WARS ETC.  LOOK AT RELIGIOUS SCHISMS IN EUROPE THE UNLIKELY PROSPECT OF 'REFORM' IS IRRELEVANT REFORMED OR NOT,  MASS IMMIGRATION = ALIEN POPULATION & THAT FACT CAN NEVER CHANGE MASS IMMIGRATION = GENOCIDE  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STEYN'S PRESCRIPTION End ideological subversion of the Western world. Saudis fund export of ideology and the oil funds that.  Challenge in order, I would think. Unless you have cultural confidence, you should not have mass Muslim migration, according to Mark Steyn. Discusses how you cannot make an Englishman (or other example) of this or that migrant. Mass immigration is always a sign of societal weakness. Dependence on mass immigration is a sign of a structural defect in society. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT MASS IMMIGRATION = GENOCIDE therefore 'cultural confidence' is irrelevant in the long run --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Future Potential Scenarios Fall of Rome Malcolm Muggeridge would lecture that we would soon find ourselves in the position of St Augustine, Bishop of Hippo (North Africa), writer of 'City of God', where the news of the fall of Rome, flower of classical civilisation, reaches him as he, in his lifetime, watches it all slip away. Pruned It Grows Again Benedict XVI Mark Steyn: Refers to post-WWII transnational institutions created by USA that are falling into the hands of the enemies of liberal societies. The pruning is going to be far more severe than we know. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'M WITH THE MUGGERIDGE GUY THAT SEES THIS AS A RE-RUN OF THE FALL OF ROME ONLY, I ALREADY FEEL LIKE SAINT AUGUSTINE MUST HAVE FELT -- EVEN THOUGH ST AUGUSTINE ONLY RECEIVED NEWS OF THE FALL HOWEVER, I AM WATCHING EUROPEAN CIVILISATION AND EUROPEAN PEOPLES BEING DESTROYED THIS IS THE END OF EUROPEAN CIVILISATION ON THIS PLANET I AM FIRMLY CONVINCED OF THAT.  IT'S OVER.  IT'S FINISHED.   CAPITALISM HAS DESTROYED ALL EUROPEANS.  BY MY ESTIMATION, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS GOING WITH THE 'PRUNE' & ASSUME ANOTHER 'FLOCK' OPTION  AS A VIEW OF THE FUTURE, BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS MISTAKEN IF IT BELIEVES IT WILL SURVIVE SUCH A FUTURE  BILLIONS IN DEBT CIVIL WAR PREDICTED 2010 INTERVIEW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgNPaL9CllI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------