Enoch Powell Documentary

Rivers of Blood Enoch Powell the only private soldier throughout WWII to reach the rank of Brigadier Professor Powell, Intelligence Officer, British Eighth Army North Africa  General Erwin Rommel 'Desert Fox' Afrika Korps Third Rich Germany WWII Enoch Powell's quarry Signals sent by Rommel's Afrika Korps all intercepted by the British SUMMARY [re quotations:  confirm audio] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc26aTCwyYM Enoch Powell Documentary John Enoch Powell The issue of race was to bring Powell in confrontation with Edward Heath. Powell won the plaudits of many traditional Labour voters, like the London dockers. Birmingham Born Born in a thunderstorm in Birmingham in 1912. His parents were both schoolteachers. The young John Enoch Powell was so precocious that he was nicknamed "the Professor". Scholar   He won a scholarship to King Edward's Grammar School, Birmingham, where he was known as "scowly Powelly". He established himself as brilliant at Greek and Latin. A contemporary at school was Christopher Evans. "He was fiendishly clever and we were all rather frightened of him, as I think were some of his masters, actually.  He was so good and rather knew it, I think, you know.  And my memory of him is of a rather pale, slightly stooping boy with head thrust forward, rather intense look and serious look in his face.  He was a loner.  A complete loner." Christopher Evans "I wasn't different from other children.  I was just as naughty.  I was just as wicked and malevolent." "I hesitate to remember the depredations which I helped to commit upon the rolling stock of the Midland Railway Company, as we travelled to and from King Edward's, Birmingham." "Well, I have been known to unscrew the luggage rack ...". Enoch Powell Trinity College, Cambridge Powell went as a classics scholar to Trinity College, Cambridge, the finishing school for future Soviet spies and Tory cabinet ministers, but he was too busy for extramural activities. "As an undergraduate, I got up at five.  I knew nothing else to do but to work.  I didn't keep a fire in my room.  I worked in an overcoat with my feet in a blanket, because I thought that more conducive to mental effort.  Whether it is so or not, I don't know.  But I did.  I had no social life as an undergraduate." Enoch Powell What about as far as women are concerned? "They didn't exist." Enoch Powell   But you must have seen women at Cambridge. "Yes, I noticed them." Enoch Powell What did you think of them? "I wondered what they were doing there, because I didn't think they would approach advanced learning in the same mood or manner as a man would." Enoch Powell Why did you think that? "Because the analytical faculties are underdeveloped in women." Enoch Powell   Although he claims he knew no women there, at Cambridge Powell wrote his first book of poems -- some of them highly erotic -- which revealed the intensity of feelings beneath the aesthetic façade.  XLI I did not speak, but when I saw you turn And cross your right leg on your left and fold, Your hands across your knee, I felt a flow Of white-hot lava seething up the old Volcano-shaft.  That self same attitude, Though not of yours, it was which long ago Fired me, an innocent, unknowing boy. And led me on to sin and on to learn And onwards onto the very fount of woe; From which returning, evermore pursued ... Enoch Powell "It wasn't written to anybody.  It was written as an exercise.  A work of the imagination." Enoch Powell WAR DRUMS Australia WWII Recruitment Drive Henry Buck's, Swanston Street, Melbourne [CLICK TO ENLARGE]  [source] Australia | War Drums When he was 25, Powell flew to Australia. He'd become professor of Greek at Sydney University. There his feelings of British nationalism grew as he became convinced that war was inevitable.   His poems show he welcomed the prospect of dying fighting for his country, although he believed the [Germans] would win the war.   I felt I could hear the German divisions marching across Europe and I could hear this drumming coming through the earth, and coming up again in Australia where no-one else could hear. British Army Powell volunteered when the war began and says he spent the happiest time of his life as a private soldier in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, but he had high military ambitions and was soon rise with record speed through the ranks. The army had quickly spotted Powell's linguistic and intellectual talents, and he was sent for training as an intelligence officer. A fellow cadet at Aldershot  ... "We were a motley crew and Enoch Powell was there.  Didn't pay a great part in sort of boisterous evenings boozing a bit and so on, which obviously young cadets did. He was conspicuous by lying on his bunk -- by lying on his bed most of the time reading, and it turned out when you asked him, you know, what you're reading, he said:  "Oh, well, I'm reading the bible."  And he said, "If it sounds funny that it's even funnier, because it's in Greek." He was popular, but we sort of took him as a bit of a nutcase, I suppose." Sir Hardy Amies Intelligence Corps 1939-1944 Powell was sent to work with intelligence officer with the Eighth Army in North Africa. His task was to get inside the mind of the German army commander General Rommel, by deploying his professional skills as a textual critic. The secret signals sent by Rommel's Afrika Korps were all being intercepted by the British. There Rommel was known as "the Desert Fox", Professor Powell came to understand more about the general's plans than anyone else in the British Army. After the British victory at El Alamein, Powell was to become the only private soldier throughout the war to reach the rank of Brigadier. He was posted to India ... -------/\/\/ Powell now took up fox hunting and it was in pursuit of the uneatable ... "Well, I fell in love with someone while I was hunting." "That failed.  I was not satisfactory." Enoch Powell You mean, you wanted to marry her and she turned you down? "That's right." Enoch Powell His love was Barbara Manor Kennedy, a Colonel's daughter from the Shropshire County set. She was 23; he was 37 and she was the first women he'd ever courted. Powell dedicated a book of poems to his love, identifying her only as "B". One of them told of how they parted. XVII I dreamt that on a mountain-crest As in the sheep-cropped grass we lay, The worlds that ever at my breast ... You ceased.  The wind that through the sward With steady-breathing passion swept, From flower and grass and heather blent 'Amen' to that strange sacrament; And silent, as it seemed, we wept.  Enoch Powell -------/\/\/ "Well, then I took up with the lady who did marry me and lived happily ever after, I believe one adds." Enoch Powell "... his eyes were very blue and he was great fun." Pamela Powell Pamela Powell, herself a Colonel's daughter, vividly recalls how the 40-year old Powell proposed. "We had dinner at a Chinese restaurant and I knew he was going to ask me and, three days later, he did ask me. And what he actually said, when he was on his bended-knee no less, he actually said to me:  I can't promise you anything except a life of poverty, grinding poverty, and a life totally on the back benches." Pamela Powell Her mother had told Pamela Wilson that being married to Enoch would be like going to university every day for the rest of her life. She relished the prospect but was unprepared for the absent-mindedness of her professor on their return from honeymoon. Pamela Powell recounts anecdote. -------/\/\/ NATIONALISM Powell's political star was soon rising. The father of two daughters presented an ideal family man image.  Powell was appointed Treasury Minister and began to be talked of as a future Tory leader, but he resigned from MacMillan's government in protest against increased public spending. He was a prototype monetarist before Mrs Thatcher was even an MP. In 1965, with the Tories in opposition, Powell stood for the party leadership against Ted Heath. Heath won ... Unlike the bachelor leader, Powell had duties as a father. By 1968, Enoch Powell had become a recognisable political figure. Powell was now developing an ideology markedly to the right of Ted Health's, above all on the taboo subject of race. Powell was alarmed by what he saw as the dangers of coloured immigration to the British nation. His views seemed to contrast sharply with his professed love for India. "India is India and England is England.  And an Englishman can have a love for India without wishing to see India on the streets of Birmingham." Enoch Powell -------/\/\/ RIVERS OF BLOOD Rivers of Blood Speech - transcript. The issue of Race was to bring Powell in confrontation with Heath. Powell decided to quote directly from the experiences of immigrants from his white constituents. Only parts of that polemical speech were filmed, but Powell has kept his original text. He began by attacking the Labour government's bill that outlawed racial discrimination. [ ie.  Labour government Race Relations Bill ] "The discrimination and the deprivation, the sense of alarm and of resentment lie not with the immigrant population but among those among whom they have come and are still coming.   This is why to enact legislation of a kind before parliament of this moment is to risk throwing a match onto gunpowder." Birmingham, April 1968 Enoch Powell Powell quoted a letter he said he'd received about an elderly widow living in Wolverhampton, the only white resident left in her street. He quoted from the letter:  "She is becoming afraid to go out.  Windows are broken, she finds excreta pushed through her letterbox.  When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies.  They cannot speak English, but one world they know.  "Racialist", they chant." "Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.   We must be mad.   Literally mad as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population.   It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre." Birmingham, April 1968 Enoch Powell Powell ended the speech with a quote from Virgil, translated from Latin: "As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding, like the Romans, I seem to see "the river Tiber foaming with much blood."" A storm broke out in the press. Press condemnation, [political performance & baying agitators]. [Comment:  stock standard demands to sack politician.  How many times have we seen this intimidation, bullying & hijacking replayed since Powell was sacked by Heath?] DISMISSED Enoch Powell Dismissed by Edward Heath, MP Opposition Leader (1965-1970) Edward Heath said:  "I dismissed Mr Powell from the Shadow Cabinet because I believe that his speech was inflammatory and liable to damage race relations in this country.  I am determined to do everything I can to prevent racial problems developing into civil strife, and this means that these questions must be treated with moderation and with toleration." [ Enoch Powell concludes that Heath was alarmed by the outcry and, sensing danger, ran for cover. ] In fact, Powell had never made a speech so explicit before, and there was a groundswell of support for him from seemingly unlikely quarters.  The London dockers had demanded his reinstatement and the Smithfield meat porters marched on parliament with a petition.  "It touched a spring.  A spring which vibrated in the hearts of millions of people in this country. " Enoch Powell [Powell subsequently received over 45,000 letters mostly in support.] The persistent theme of the letters was that Britain was being changed in ways that the writers disliked and feared, without any consultation. RACISM "What's wrong with racism.    Racism is the basis of a nationality. Nations are, upon the whole, united by identity with one another; the self-identification of their citizens, and that's normally due to similarities which we regard as racial similarities." Enoch Powell Powell's visits to universities across the countries were now regularly disrupted.  He aroused stronger feelings, both pro and anti, than any other politician of his time. "Too often today, people are ready to tell us "this is not possible, that is not possible".   I say:  whatever the true interest of our country calls for is always possible." Enoch Powell Conservative Party Conference 1968 Powellism Powellism reached parts of the Tory party which Ted Heath could never reach. Conservatives under Heath winning in 1970, sealed Enoch Powell's exile. COMMON MARKET It was Europe that was to cause the final break between Heath and Powell. Ted Heath's application for Britain to join the common market aroused Powell's nationalistic feelings, even though, ironically, Powell had himself once been a pro marketeer like Heath. As the anti-marketeers marched on Number 10, Powell prophesied that our entry into Europe would never happen and the bill to take us in would be defeated. "I would have done anything to prevent the Conservative party from passing that bill.  I did all I could.  I voted in the lobby against it 106 (one hundred and six) times." Enoch Powell Did you not feel any loyalty to the Conservative government? "My first loyalty is to the people of this country, and I thought they were being deprived behind their backs of something which I believed they valued and still believe they do:  their self-government through parliament." Enoch Powell SOVEREIGNTY  Conservatives had destroyed the self-government of the United Kingdom. -------/\/\/ Funeral Planned The marketplace romantic has carefully planned the arrangements for his own funeral. After a service in the chapel of his regiment, he will be buried in full-dress Brigadier's uniform. BURIED:  alongside Warwickshire Regiment veterans Warwick Cemetery, Warwickshire, England - here.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc26aTCwyYM Enoch Powell was (and is) exceptional.  What a lovely man. I found this documentary highly emotive. History has bearing on WWII; WWII has bearing on 1968; and 1968 has bearing on today. *No time to properly check for typos.  Must cook.  ;)

MOSSAD-MIT Sweden Rendezvous: Mossad Reorganizes Turkish Intelligence Service

MOSSAD-MIT Sweden Rendezvous:  Mossad Reorganizes Turkish Intelligence Service Mossad Reorganizes Turkish Intelligence Service May 19, 2016. The Roman Petko, senior  Bulgarian minority party "Alternative for Bulgarian Renaissance" [Bulgarian: АБВ - Алтернатива за Българско Възраждане] , recently wrote to the personal account of the Twitter has that information on cooperation between the Israeli Mossad secret service (Mossad) and the Turkish intelligence service (Mill î İ stihbarat Te ş kilat ı - M İ T ). Obviously   The information retrieved from Turkey. Reports say after a secret meeting between the Head of Mossad (Yossi Cohen) and Turkish Foreign Minister Deputy   (Synyrly Davutoglu) in Sweden, expert passes Mossad from the Turkish airports have grown "more than ever" and major Israeli officers allegedly responsible for the reorganization of the Turkish security services. In particular, it was proposed to increase by 7% of the human resources and organizational structure of MİT. In the past year there has been a direct result of the measures taken following consultations with the experts of the Mossad. Bulgarian politician hinted that the in alleged cooperation must be seen the context of terrorist attacks carried out in the country, adding   "Natural increase security in Turkey and reducing   explosions   and bleeding   the country is the concrete result of these actions. " Sources: MIDDLE-EAST NEWS AGENCY, Al Masdar News The Hellenic Information Team http://www.echedoros-a.gr/2016/05/blog-post_642.html Archive (English) http://archive.is/7wOtF COMMENT Why Sweden?  LOL Bet they're recruiting grateful invaders for beefing up a proxy jihadi attack force on Syria.

British Intelligence - MI6 Susceptible to Hostile Penetration

Article SOURCE as marked MI6 Susceptible to Hostile Penetration http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3510318/Decorated-spy-met-men-sex-close-MI6-HQ-near-Army-base-says-wife-divorcing-him.html Decorated spy 'met other men for sex close to his MI6 HQ and near his Army base' says wife who is divorcing him A decorated spy was secretly meeting men for sex near the MI6 headquarters and his army base, says his wife who fears he 'put himself at risk of blackmail'. The intelligence officer, who specialises in identifying key targets in terrorist organisations, is said to have confessed to having casual gay sex with several men after his wife became suspicious. She has decided to divorce him but says she reported him to authorities because she believed he had made himself susceptible to hostile operations. The wife had become suspicious after she discovered pornography on her husband's phone and found out that he had been using gay dating websites, the Telegraph reported. 'When I found out what he had been doing my world fell apart,' she said. The officer's wife has questioned the effectiveness of security clearance procedures, which are supposed to raise any issues that could lead to sensitive information getting into the wrong hands. She wrote in a letter to military bosses: 'I found out what my husband was doing very easily. Imagine what trained people could do with this information.' The intelligence officer, who has not been named, was involved in operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has received a military award from the Queen. He would have access to top secret information in his role. The revelations came to light during a military divorce case heard in court.  An Army spokesman said it takes 'the welfare of its personnel extremely seriously and has provided appropriate support to the soldier and his family'. The revelations come after it was alleged that MI6 worker Gareth Williams, who was found dead in his flat in August 2010, was a victim of an elaborate blackmail plot. It was suggested that the 31-year-old enjoyed cross-dressing and visited gay nightclubs, information about his private life that could have made him vulnerable to hostile intelligence services.  Read more: Decorated spy exposed by wife over secret gay sex near MI6 HQ - Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12204769/Decorated-spy-exposed-by-wife-over-secret-gay-sex-near-MI6-HQ.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3510318/Decorated-spy-met-men-sex-close-MI6-HQ-near-Army-base-says-wife-divorcing-him.html -------/\/\/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12204769/Decorated-spy-exposed-by-wife-over-secret-gay-sex-near-MI6-HQ.html Decorated spy exposed by wife over secret gay sex near MI6 HQ - Telegraph EXTRACTS This newspaper has seen military correspondence in which the woman raises concerns about Developed Vetting (DV), a security procedure designed to alert intelligence agencies to issues with the private lives of their staff which could make them vulnerable to blackmail. The wife said: “DV is not fit for purpose any more. It’s an honesty box system that doesn’t work. I found out what my husband was doing very easily. Imagine what trained people could do with this information.” ... It is understood that he is viewed as a “higher trained intelligence officer” who has experience of working with both “willing and unwilling subjects”.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12204769/Decorated-spy-exposed-by-wife-over-secret-gay-sex-near-MI6-HQ.html -------/\/\/ ---------------------- ---------------------- COMMENT Working with 'unwilling subjects' means what, MI6 torture or something?

British Council & Who really killed Aung San?

Who really killed Aung San? Volume 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3huRoNnq2A&feature=share British Council founded 1934 British Foreign Office initiative / arose in the 1920s British competing with French, German & Italian 'cultural' organisations initial aims - indoctrination of foreigners with: British education British culture during WWII educational activities in refugee camps 1939 Resident Foreigners Division established to manage refugee education by end WWII, British Council centres in: *London *Liverpool *Manchester *Birmingham *Oxford *Stratford-on-Avon *Wilton *Edinburgh *Leith, Scotland *Cardiff, Wales Plus: centre for:  Society for Visiting Scientists *Allied Lawyers' Foyer 1940 Royal Charter granted Post WWII, British Council focused = Europe & closure of offices in many other locations (lack of funds) British forced to pull out of following countries for political reasons: *Eastern Europe *China *Persia (Iran) 1943-4 - Bland Report (Foreign Office review post WWII intelligence requirements) concludes best cover for British intel: *small business solely run in interests of SIS *recruitment of established British businessmen who ran own private concerns *cover for semi-national & non-profit institutions in foreign countries *railway companies, airways corporations Report supposedly states the Council previously unwilling to assist (oh, sure). Burma 1947 - classified documents [journalist Feargal Keane, BBC investigation] Hidden by British Foreign Office to 1997: High ranking British government officials involvement in assassination of Burmese independence leader Aung San (father of Aung San Su Kyi) per 1948 document Rangoon Chief of Police to British Ambassador Video - above A Gaddafi daughter received certificate dated 2007 from British Council, Tripoli, Libya / said to have been killed in US raid on Gaddafi residence in 1986 It looks like Russians had the common sense to give the British Council the heave-ho in 2007 / but I've not checked if this is a permanent shut-down of British Council ops in Russia British Council Teaching Centres in 53 countries / world's largest English-language teaching org. [comment:  *and a massive British spy org, no doubt] Program: International Association of the Exchange of Students for Technical Experience - 80 countries offers students, studying in the UK internships as part of an international placement undergraduates studying a technical degree i.e. engineering, science, architecture or pharmacy Sports 'Peace English' - Africa & other, FCO & MoD - improving English of military abroad, incl. police services in 28 countries ... eg.  Libya, Ethiopia, Georgia [comment:  Brits would be using Georgia to probably cause some problem for Russia / we know what they've done to Libya / and Ethiopia's probably been assaulted & robbed or is about to be] British Council involved in Palestine Festival of Literature [comment:  quite odd, given the British stand firmly behind Israel, which they helped to establish] British Council - closures of libraries & services across Europe   British Council intend to focus - Middle East, North Africa, Central & Southern Asia. entry mentions focusing on strategic & commercial importance:  China & Persian Gulf   Alliance française + Goethe-Institut expanding & replenishing libraries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Council ---------------------- ---------------------- Went into this after coming across the very unusual case of Comrade Bala (here).   I've previously done a summary of the British Council & it's probably right here somewhere on this blog ... but I've forgotten what the go was with this organisation, so I've done myself another summary. No time to watch that video.  Must sleep. Sounds intriguing.

Various Intel & Surveillance

ꕤ Article SOURCE as marked Intelligence / Surveillance Kashmir Islamist Attack India Airbase Terrorists who attacked #India Air Force (IAF) base at #Pathankot were detected by aerial #surveillance platforms http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/terrorists-at-pathankot-were-detected-immidiately-iaf-116010200408_1.html [read elsewhere that terrorists entered base & fired indiscriminately, so aerial detection means jack.] Spy Arrest - India last week: ex-IAF official Ranjith KK arrested re passing secrets to #Pakistan subsequent attack on base Ranjith, 30, honey-trapped Inter-Services Intelligence (IS) operative posed as a journalist on Facebook & befriended. #India Crime Branch arrested x5 incl. Border Security Force + Rashtriya Rifles re alleged espionage http://www.thestatesman.com/news/india/pathankot-attack-linked-to-arrest-of-iaf-spy/114122.html #India Pathankot air base terror attack by x7 -  Jaish-e-Mohammad 13 hours encounter x4 each, killed (not final figure) #India JeM stormed airbase & fired indiscriminately Garuda commandos, Army troops + police deployed. Airfields on high alert. http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/pathankot-terror-strike-how-the-attack-unfolded-1184452.html Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) (ie  Army of Muhammad) Islamist militant, based Kashmir https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaish-e-Mohammed ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- L-3 USA intel contractor revenue of $2.80 billion - Oct quarter / quarterly revenue down -  4.2% L-3 VP Curtis Brunson sold 55,465 shares @ total:  $6,861,020.50 --> still has 75,201 shares in company. http://www.wkrb13.com/markets/990171/fy2015-eps-estimates-for-l-3-communications-holdings-inc-lll-raised-by-analyst/ ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- Vodafone lawful interception / #Surveillance #Ireland @ 7,973 in 2015 --> no push-back possible / mandated #Ireland Garda (police) Síochána Ombudsman Commission Feb. 2014 - was bugged / surveillance (suspected) --> security sweep done (& was leaked to press). UK govt published draft text of new Investigatory Powers bill Dec 2015 / if passed:  12 months phone & internet data storage #UK investigatory powers bill: lets intel & police to hack into PCs & phones / legal obligation on carriers to help them “The UK government is seeking the power to compel companies, many of them based in Ireland, to hack users on their behalf." #UKpolitics ... stand by for #Facebook & #Apple UK government malware. http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints/analysis/future-of-mobile-the-intelligence-behind-tracking-digital-evidence-374065.html ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- GCHQ spy boss Sir Brian Tovey has died aged 89 Director -  1978 to 1983 army intel U. London, deg Mod. Chinese ** there's a ban on union membership for GCHQ staff. http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/Spy-boss-eye-fine-Renaissance-art/story-28450497-detail/story.html ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- Count Alexandre de Marenches 1921-1995 French intel Director / Reagan adviser {Norman knights origin} quit army in protest Algerian policy Factions in French intel. circulating defamatory reports re de Gaulle /alleged affair Alain Delon + dead Delon bodyguard. Medhi Ben Barka French intel kidnapping of Ben Barka (Morocco left-wing) died interrogation #Paris / CIA involved / won't release documents. Ben Barka (Morocco) son says French withholding docs implicating  French secret services (SDECE) + potentially CIA & Mossad. Jan 1969 French actor Alain Delon held for questioning / murder bodyguard Yugoslav, Stefan Markovic x3 interrogations prior Mavkovic's body --> inside a sack on garbage dump --> shot in head & beaten skull to cover wound Alain Delon Navy in Indo-China Marseilles waterfront criminal connections Bodyguard Stefan Markovic alleged drug ring involvement alleged politician drug parties (spread by French intel?) Theory of photos of politicians in compromising positions & attempted blackmail by bodyguard. Bodyguard Stefan Markovic: Letter - "If I get killed, it's 100% the fault of Alain Delon" + "godfather François Marcantoni" François Marcantoni charged as accessory to murder. Released after 11 months. Guilt could not be established. François Marcantoni Corsican gangster. French resistance. Bank robber + writer. Died Paris 2010 Link | Wikipedia Mehdi Ben Barka major figure in Third World movement supported revolutionary anti-colonial action --> angered USA & France. OSPAAAL Asia, Africa + #LatAm solidarity fm. Havana Tricontinental Conference pro socialism 3rd World anti:  globalisation, imperialism, neoliberalism & pro defending human rights Medhi Ben Barka involved re:  OSPAAAL Link | Wikipedia ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- COMMENT Some of what I looked at. The attack on the Indian air base sounded exciting. But it got even better when I got onto the French intelligence stuff ... they sound like total rogues. ꕤ

Hilarious Leaked Turkish False Flag Plot - Exposed Turkey (Plotting War), Cries - Leak Is 'Declaration of War' LMAO

ꕤ Article SOURCE - AUDIO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pZ7AhR_C0 Published on 28 Mar 2014 SOURCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pZ7AhR_C0 " A leaked conversation between Turkey's intelligence chief and the war room reveals plot to create a casus belli for war with Syria by using ISIL, an alQaeda offshoot, to threaten a Turkish shrine Suleiman Shah Tomb. Turkey has blocked youtube in order to cover up the leaks. Turkish Foreign Ministry confirmed the recording of planning for a military incursion into Syria adding that a 'network of treason' was responsible for leak. Part two of the leaked conversation implicates John Kerry US secretary of state in the plot. Syria has called on the United Nations to investigate a leaked file containing discussions by top Turkish authorities on how to fabricate an attack in order to justify a military operation against Damascus. "I'd like to refer once again to this audio tape leak by the Turkish foreign minister and the deputy chief of staff of the Turkish army," Syrian Ambassador to the UN Bashar al-Jaafari said on Friday, adding that the Turkish officials talked about an attack by "sending a terrorist group inside the Syrian territory." "And then this group is supposed to launch eight missiles within the Turkish territory and it would be a justification for further Turkish aggression against Syria," the Syrian envoy stated. He also denounced some members of the UN Security Council and its secretariat for refusing to hear the truth about the situation in Syria, saying those countries themselves are "deeply involved" in "spreading terrorism" across the Arab country. The audio file uploaded on YouTube is a recording of Turkey's intelligence chief Hakan Fidan, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, Deputy Chief of Military  Staff Yasar Guler, and other senior officials discussing the possible assault. Ankara reacted to the anonymous posting by blocking users' access to YouTube throughout Turkey, saying the leaking of the controversial recording had created "a national security issue." Davutoglu also on Thursday condemned the leak as a "declaration of war" against the Turkish government and nation, stressing, "A cyber attack has been carried out against the Turkish Republic, our state and our valued nation." Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier described the recording as "villainous". The YouTube ban came a week after the government imposed a ban on Twitter, accusing the social networking website of violating Turkey's laws.  " SOURCE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6pZ7AhR_C0 ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- ꕤ COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. COMMENT LMAO ... the only thing that's 'villainous' is Erdogan and his government. This is hilarious.  They're pointing the finger & squealing that this leak is a 'declaration of war', but it's Turkey that was trying to declare war on Syria through dastardly, illegitimate, faked means! OMG!  It says John Kerry, US Secretary of State, was also implicated. Need to maybe confirm this elsewhere.  Wow, I didn't know about this. Don't know how I missed this.  What was I looking at? ꕤ

Transcript - Banned Audio Leak - Turkey Head of Intelligence Hakan Fiday & Turkish FM Ahmet Davutoğlu - False Flag Plot for Casus Belli in Syria

ꕤ Article SOURCE VIDEO https://youtu.be/c-1GooSDwJ8 FULL AT SOURCE http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-youtube-ban-full-transcript-leaked-syria-war-conversation-between-erdogan-officials-1442161 Turkey YouTube Ban: Full Transcript of Leaked Syria 'War' Conversation Between Erdogan Officials     Jack Moore     By Jack Moore     March 27, 2014 16:57 GMT Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's ban of YouTube occurred after a conversation was leaked between Head of Turkish Intelligence Hakan Fidan and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu that he wanted removed from the video-sharing website. Full transcript (translated by @castizbey): Ahmet Davutoğlu: "Prime Minister said that in current conjuncture, this attack (on Suleiman Shah Tomb) must be seen as an opportunity for us." Hakan Fidan: "I'll send 4 men from Syria, if that's what it takes. I'll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey; we can also prepare an attack on Suleiman Shah Tomb if necessary." Feridun Sinirlioğlu: "Our national security has become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit." Yaşar Güler: "It's a direct cause of war. I mean, what're going to do is a direct cause of war." -------- FIRST SCREEN: Ahmet Davutoğlu: I couldn't entirely understand the other thing; what exactly does our foreign ministry supposed to do? No, I'm not talking about the thing. There are other things we're supposed to do. If we decide on this, we are to notify the United Nations, the Istanbul Consulate of the Syrian regime, right? Feridun Sinirlioğlu: But if we decide on an operation in there, it should create a shocking effect. I mean, if we are going to do so. I don't know what we're going to do, but regardless of what we decide, I don't think it'd be appropriate to notify anyone beforehand. Ahmet Davutoğlu: OK, but we're gonna have to prepare somehow. To avoid any shorts on regarding international law. I just realised when I was talking to the president (Abdullah Gül), if the Turkish tanks go in there, it means we're in there in any case, right? Yaşar Güler: It means we're in, yes. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Yeah, but there's a difference between going in with aircraft and going in with tanks... SECOND SCREEN: Yaşar Güler: Maybe we can tell the Syrian consulate general that, ISIL is currently working alongside the regime, and that place is Turkish land. We should definitely... Ahmet Davutoğlu: But we have already said that, sent them several diplomatic notes. Yaşar Güler: To Syria... Feridun Sinirlioğlu: That's right. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Yes, we've sent them countless times. Therefore, I'd like to know what our Chief of Staff's expects from our ministry. Yaşar Güler: Maybe his intent was to say that, I don't really know, he met with Mr. Fidan. Hakan Fidan: Well, he did mention that part but we didn't go into any further details. Yaşar Güler: Maybe that was what he meant... A diplomatic note to Syria? Hakan Fidan: Maybe the Foreign Ministry is assigned with coordination... THIRD SCREEN: Ahmet Davutoğlu: I mean, I could coordinate the diplomacy but civil war, the military... Feridun Sinirlioğlu: That's what I told back there. For one thing, the situation is different. An operation on ISIL has solid ground on international law. We're going to portray this is Al-Qaeda, there's no distress there if it's a matter regarding Al-Qaeda. And if it comes to defending Suleiman Shah Tomb, that's a matter of protecting our land. Yaşar Güler: We don't have any problems with that. Hakan Fidan: Second after it happens, it'll cause a great internal commotion (several bombing events is bound to happen within). The border is not under control... Feridun Sinirlioğlu:I mean, yes, the bombings are of course going to happen. But I remember our talk from 3 years ago... Yaşar Güler: Mr. Fidan should urgently receive back-up and we need to help him supply guns and ammo to rebels. We need to speak with the minister. Our Interior Minister, our Defense Minister. We need to talk about this and reach a resolution sir. Ahmet Davutoğlu: How did we get special forces into action when there was a threat in Northern Iraq? We should have done so in there, too. We should have trained those men. We should have sent men. Anyway, we can't do that, we can only do what diplomacy... Feridun Sinirlioğlu: I told you back then, for God's sake, General, you know how we managed to get those tanks in, you were there. Yaşar Güler: What, you mean our stuff? Feridun Sinirlioğlu: Yes, how do you think we've managed to rally our tanks into Iraq? How? How did we manage to get special forces, the battalions in? I was involved in that. Let me be clear, there was no government decision on that, we have managed that just with a single order. FOURTH SCREEN: Yaşar Güler: Well, I agree with you. For one thing, we're not even discussing that. But there are different things that Syria can do right now. Ahmet Davutoğlu: General, the reason we're saying no to this operation is because we know about the capacity of those men. Yaşar Güler: Look, sir, isn't MKE (Mechanical and Chemical Industry Corporation) at minister's bidding? Sir, I mean, Qatar is looking for ammo to buy in cash. Ready cash. So, why don't they just get it done? It's at Mr. Minister's command. Ahmet Davutoğlu: But there's the spot we can't act integratedly, we can't coordinate. Yaşar Güler: Then, our Prime Minister can summon both Mr. Defence Minister and Mr. Minister at the same time. Then he can directly talk to them. Ahmet Davutoğlu: We, Mr. Siniroğlu and I, have literally begged Mr. Prime Minster for a private meeting, we said that things were not looking so bright. FIFTH SCREEN: Yaşar Güler: Also, it doesn't have to be a crowded meeting. Yourself [Foreign Minister], Mr. Defence Minister, Mr. Interior Minister and our Chief of Staff, the four of you are enough. There's no need for a crowd. Because, sir, the main need there is guns and ammo. Not even guns, mainly ammo. We've just talked about this, sir. Let's say we're building an army down there, 1000 strong. If we get them into that war without previously storing a minimum of 6-months' worth of ammo, these men will return to us after two months. Ahmet Davutoğlu: They're back already. Yaşar Güler: They'll return to us, sir. Ahmet Davutoğlu: They've came back from... What was it? Çobanbey. Yaşar Güler: Yes, indeed, sir. This matter can't be just a burden on Mr. Fidan's shoulders as it is now. It's unacceptable. I mean, we can't understand this. Why? SIXTH SCREEN: Ahmet Davutoğlu: That evening we'd reached a resolution. And I thought that things were taking a turn for the good. Our... Feridun Sinirlioğlu: We issued the MGK (National Security Council) resolution the day after. Then we talked with the general... Ahmet Davutoğlu: And the other forces really do a good follow up on this weakness of ours. You say that you're going to capture this place, and that men being there constitutes a risk factor. You pull them back. You capture the place. You reinforce it and send in your troops again. Yaşar Güler: Exactly, sir. You're absolutely right. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Right? That's how I interpret it. But after the evacuation, this is not a military necessity. It's a whole other thing. SEVENTH SCREEN Feridun Siniroğlu: There are some serious shifts in global and regional geopolitics. It now can spread to other places. You said it yourself today, and others agreed... We're headed to a different game now. We should be able to see those. That ISIL and all that jazz, all those organisations are extremely open to manipulation. Having a region made up of organisations of similar nature will constitute a vital security risk for us. And when we first went into Northern Iraq, there was always the risk of PKK blowing up the place. If we thoroughly consider the risks and substantiate... As the general just said... Yaşar Güler: Sir, when you were inside a moment ago, we were discussing just that. Openly. I mean, armed forces are a "tool" necessary for you in every turn. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Of course. I always tell the Prime Minister, in your absence, the same thing in academic jargon, you can't stay in those lands without hard power. Without hard power, there can be no soft power. EIGTH SCREEN Yaşar Güler: Sir. Feridun Sinirlioğlu: The national security has been politicised. I don't remember anything like this in Turkish political history. It has become a matter of domestic policy. All talks we've done on defending our lands, our border security, our sovereign lands in there, they've all become a common, cheap domestic policy outfit. Yaşar Güler: Exactly. Feridun Siniroğlu: That has never happened before. Unfortunately but... Yaşar Güler: I mean, do even one of the opposition parties support you in such a high point of national security? Sir, is this a justifiable sense of national security? Feridun Sinirlioğlu: I don't even remember such a period. NINTH SCREEN: Yaşar Güler: In what matter can we be unified, if not a matter of national security of such importance? None. Ahmet Davutoğlu: The year 2012, we didn't do it 2011. If only we'd took serious action back then, even in the summer of 2012. Feridun Sinirlioğlu: They were at their lowest back in 2012. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Internally, they were just like Libya. Who comes in and goes from power is not of any importance to us. But some things... Yaşar Güler: Sir, to avoid any confusion, our need in 2011 was guns and ammo. In 2012, 2013 and today also. We're in the exact same point. We absolutely need to find this and secure that place. Ahmet Davutoğlu: Guns and ammo are not a big need for that place. Because we couldn't get the human factor in order... VIDEO https://youtu.be/c-1GooSDwJ8 FULL AT SOURCE http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-youtube-ban-full-transcript-leaked-syria-war-conversation-between-erdogan-officials-1442161 ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- COMMENT It's taken me this long to discover this wonderful audio.  lol Wow, who got this?  How cool. ꕤ

Transcript - Julian Assange Interview - Hamish & Andy, Oct 2015

ꕤ Assange Transcript Source Hamish & Andy Audio - Oct 2015 http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/e/c/f/ecf7164bb3b333a5/Julian_Assange_Interview.mp3?c_id=9990803&expiration=1444478324&hwt=a6576deb465d02a68cbd40bd7149d0c3 JULIAN ASSANGE ꕤ  Copyright Disclaimer under section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for “fair use” for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, education and research. ---------------------- ꕤ ---------------------- TRANSCRIPT [for quotation purposes, confirm audio] Updated Assange Interview Hamish & Andy Show Podcast http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/e/c/f/ecf7164bb3b333a5/Julian_Assange_Interview.mp3?c_id=9990803&expiration=1444478324&hwt=a6576deb465d02a68cbd40bd7149d0c3 [skip intro] Hamish Blake Hamish & Andy Hello. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks G'day, this is Julian Assange here. Hamish Blake Hamish & Andy Hey, Julian, this is Hamish from the Hamish & Andy Show. Mate, thank you so much for taking the time. I'm just about to put you through to Andy. You'll just be talking to Ando. This is actually part of a segment where each of us tried to find a person that the other person would love to interview. Julian Assange WikiLeaks Uh-ha. Hamish Blake Hamish & Andy I'm brining you to Andy as the gift. Julian Assange WikiLeaks I see. I see. I've gotcha. Hamish Blake Hamish & Andy He got me Jeff Probst from Survivor. Ummm, absolutely no offence to you. I think your story's fascinating. But I've already used my interview up. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks The other one has to do the leg work. Hamish Blake Hamish & Andy Yeah. That's right. He got me Jeff. I've had a great time. Available for download [ skip ] ... But I won't chew up any more of your time. I'm going to pop you through to Andy. And best of luck. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Julian. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks G'day Andy. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Hey, thanks for taking the time. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks You're welcome. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Ummm, I'd imagine you've had a lot of in-depth political conversations with extremely informed interviewers. Ummm, I'm just letting you know that this is probably not that interview. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Rarely. Rarely. [Laughter] Andy Lee Hamish & Andy OK. Good. Good. [Laugher] But I am certainly fascinated about your story, and also obviously the new book, The WikiLeaks Files, which is out now -- which we'll cover off. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Yes. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy But I want to start, if I may, with the asylum thing and the fact that you are there in the Ecuadorian embassy. What is the set up? What is the set up, where do you live and what's the set up there? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks So, right now, I'm in the Ecuadorian Embassy of London, in a police siege -- the longest running police siege ever -- surrounded by a hundred (100) full-time equivalent police from the British government. I've been detained (without charge in any country) in the United Kingdom, for five (5) years. And there's a series of court cases proceeding. Criminal court cases, civil court cases, in different countries: in the UK, in the United states, in Sweden, in Saudi Arabia, in Germany, in Australia, Denmark [and] Iceland. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Mmmm-mmmm. And they're the one-- --and so, I suppose that's the reason why you sought asylum. You obviously don't want to face those charges at the moment. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks I have not been charged. It's an important thing to remember. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yes, I'm sorry. They want you for questioning. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, there's quite a large number of cases. The serious one is the US case, where there's a pending prosecution for espionage; in relation -- you were talking the Swedish case -- in relation to the Swedish case, I have already been cleared in that quote 'preliminary investigation' unquote. The state of play now is it's still a 'preliminary investigation'. They have refused to take my statement in five (5) years. Nothing has happened in the case in five (5) years. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy So, how long do you plan to wait, if those investigations around the world and those case -- like you mentioned, the one for espionage? Did you you have a plan when you sought asylum? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks My plan was to-- It was a very dangerous and difficult environment outside the embassy. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks And, so, yeah. There was a strategic plan, which is to-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [interjects] Avoid them [laughter]. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks --seek and receive asylum, both in a legal sense and in a practical sense -- and get into a country that was safer. The first part of that has been successful. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks So, I've won the asylum case. Ummm, and that then changes a little bit the legal and political character of everything else that happens, because it has been a formal founding that I have been politically persecuted by the United States. But we still now have to achieve the practical component. The UK's in violation of international law. But so was the Iraq war, right? Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yes Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks So, it's a bit hard to force a big state to obey the law. That's a matter of politics. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy So, on that point, how does one go about trying to seek asylum? Was Ecuador your first choice? Do you ring around a number of embassies? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks We looked at about twenty (20) different countries and we were negotiating with a variety of them. Ecuador just got its boots on the ground first, as a kind of practical measure. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. And as you mentioned, I mean, British police have been out the front of that building for so many years. Ummm, they're waiting for you to come out in-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks [interjects] Well, they've been around the building and in surrounding buildings, which are owned by Harrods, which they have struck a deal with. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks They've been inside the building. They hide behind the toilet on the exit stairwells. On the rooftops they have surveillance teams all over the place. It's a big operation. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy So where do you think-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks -- They admit that they've spent more than twelve (12) million pounds on it so far. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Wow. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks More than fifteen (15) million Australian dollars. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy And, so, where is safe for you within that building, and what's your sleeping arrangements like? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Within the building? Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, nowhere is safe. They have managed to gain control from time to time of the floors above and below. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah, wow. And, and-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks And they've been caught doing that. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah, OK. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Ummm, they've even planted bugs in the ambassador's office. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Could they release [???] to us now? 6:57 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Almost certainly. I mean, the United Kingdom -- it's come out in the Snowden revelations -- intercepts everything passing in and out of the UK automatically, regardless of whether it was me or not. But, specifically, the GCHQ, the UK's electronic spy service was revealed to be spying on us. Yes. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Wow. I mean, you're probably used to that now, but that seems quite exciting -- err, for me [laughter]. Ummm, lets-- 7:30 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks I mean, it is exciting, generally speaking. But it's, you know, it's a bit difficult on my family and a bit -- well, frankly, it's bloody unjust being detained without charge for five (5) years-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy And intrusive, I'd imagine. Well, talking of your family-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks -- it's just not right. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy --how do you get a chance to meet with family and friends? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks With extreme difficulty. Because of the surveillance operation, people who come to the embassy run the risk of being exposed. Very likely to be exposed. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks So, people who I don't want the UK government being able to -- and its allies to have some pressure on -- obviously can't come to the embassy. 8:12 Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Of course. For their own safety. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Yeah. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah. So how do you pass your days? Do you have the internet in there? I imagine it would be tapped as well. Is there a gym? Is there sunlight? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, it's-- it's very interesting that people have that question. It actually reveals something about the way people think about what people do and that doing is somehow coupled to progressing through the physical environment. There's that assumption, but-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. 8:40 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks --you know, I'm a -- which I like to do. But I do intellectual work, so I write books and I manage an organisation that's spread out all over the world, and its involves really serious stuff, and is fighting all these court cases and banking blockades and so on. So, actually, there's more work to do when you're stuck in an embassy than when you're not stuck at an embassy. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [laughter] I understand that. But, I mean, a lot of people to do their work -- and need to be stimulated, you know, by some things -- the idea of exercise can stimulate the brain. These things, I mean, do they come readily to you every day, or are there ways that you can tune out? 9:20 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, I mean, it's like being on a submarine, right? Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Maybe Australian navy people [???] submarines-- It's very-- Well, they don't go down for three years. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy No, three (3) years would be a long dive [laughter]. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Three (3) years, no sun. They don't do that. But on the other hand, they don't have such interesting visitors, either. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah. I mean, WikiLeaks the website, a global phenomenon. It's divided people, as you are well aware and I think all our listeners would be well aware. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Not really. [Laughter] Not really. It's divided some bullshit commentators. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [Laughter] 9:55 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks It's certainly divided the Pentagon and it's divided some politicians that have been exposed, but we have global polling across twenty-four (24) countries, so it's not really divided. We have overwhelming support across twenty-four (24) countries. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy No doubt. And amazing that you've obviously been able to win these awards, even though there's allegations against you of espionage, or at least an interest in that area from the US government. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Yeah. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy But, you know, it is a divisive topic. Explain to our audience-- 10:22 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, even in the US -- we have forty percent (40%) support in the US. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Well, explain to our audience then why you think it must exist. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Why WikiLeaks must exist? Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, it's existed nine (9) years now. We actually have the most effective argument -- not the best argument, the most effective argument -- which is: it's now part of the status quo. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yes, it is. 10:44 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks That the world has a place for WikiLeaks, simply by the fact that we've been around for nine (9) years. But in terms of something more interesting than that: well, look the results. We've published ten million (10,000,000) documents now, about every country in the world. And it's about basic education. That if you don't know what's happening in the world -- you can't escape reality, you can't stick your head in the sand -- sooner or later, reality will catch up with you, just like it did, say for example, in the Iraq war. And while often it is because it happens to someone else, eventually, it will happen to you. I mean, we're seeing that, for example, with this terrible mess that has been produced in Syria, which is starting to affect Australia now. So it's not just something that can happen over there. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy No, I understand that and I think people would understand that freedom of information means that people will hide less and be better informed to make decisions. Ummm, are there issues, do you think-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, it's the risk. It's also the risk. Ummm, that if people in governments and major corporations can't be certain that they can keep their plans secret, that has a really powerful deterrent effect. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yes. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Even if they think the chance of their stuff -- you know, of us getting hold of their stuff is maybe only one in ten thousand, say -- that one in ten thousand chance really does have a deterrent effect. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah, it will probably hold people to kind of a higher moral code. But do you think there are issues that need hiding? If I threw an example to you, and I'm sure you've had this question before, but if you came across a document that's outlining a way to stop a terrorist plot and by posting it that might alert terrorists, is that where something where WikiLeaks would show discretion there? 12:41 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks We have got a lot of experience. We've done thousands of cases and ten million (10,000,000) documents, and we have a record of never having got it wrong in relation to a single document, in terms of its accuracy, and no-one being physically harmed as a result; that even the US government has been able to find, and it was forced to say that -- the Pentagon was forced to say under oath in court. So there are decisions to be made in relation to -- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Well, this one wouldn't be people [skip] ... Like, this would be potentially alerting people so we don't catch them, I suppose. 13:22 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Yeah, it's something that's on people's minds. But there's a reason it's on people's minds, which is because every time the press exposes the Pentagon or, you know, an equivalent agency, killing people, they try to distract on the issue; and they try to change the topic and start talking about what journalists have done. But there's, you know, a long history in the press of -- I'm not aware of a single case where the press has published national security related information and this has led to retribution that has resulted in physical harm of anyone ever. Now, of course, one can theorise that maybe there are some cases. But, in practice, it doesn't happen. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Well, many people agree with you. You've won so many awards for your work while being in the Ecuadorian embassy. Who accepts those awards for you on your behalf -- at the actual events? I mean, do you do a little 'piece de video' [??], or send in someone along with a note? 14:29 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Sometimes we send someone along, sometimes they bring things back here. Sometimes it's, you know-- it's really the whole team that deserves the award. It's why I am most prominently getting the lightning, there's quite a big team of people who do the actual work. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Do you feel there are days where the cause that you're fighting-- You know, it's obviously taken over your life in every extreme because you are confined to the embassy. I mean, there would be days you yearn for normality. What are the key things you miss, do you think? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, I often get that question. I'm not going to give the bastards the pleasure of saying what I miss. They want very much to turn me into some kind of deterrent. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks I'm someone who has not even been charged, so I'm not going to get into the business of deterring people from following in my footsteps. I want to encourage people to follow in my footsteps. But, ummm-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy I appreciate that. 15:35 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks -- so [inaudible]. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yep. Let me play on then. Like you mentioned, there are so many cables and documents on WikiLeaks, it makes sense to me to put them in a book. I'll tell you why. It's because I don't know where to start sometimes. If I went to WikiLeaks the website, there's just so much information. So if it's a little bit easier to consume, potentially more people are going to do that. Is that where you see the benefit of The WikiLeaks Files? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, we ended up with so much information. Now we've done what Google has done. We have a sophisticated search engine which is on the front page. So you can put in some guy that your sister is about to go out with, or something, in the name. We see quite a lot of that. Yeah, so there's that way of doing things and that's fast. But in terms of something more nuanced, yeah, that's why we wrote this book. Because we wanted to see something much more in depth, in terms of looking at the structural relationships between countries. Not just a little nugget here and there, but, you know, what's happening in Syria, for example, as far as our material is concerned -- does it give an insight into what is happening? And it does. I mean, it shows very clearly that we have, if you like, part of the plan the US started erecting from at least 2006 to overthrow the Syrian government. Well before the problems in the Arab Spring. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Is the book available in the US? 17:15 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks It's available in the US, it's available in the UK, yeah. The US is an interesting country. In some ways it's better than the United Kingdom. OK, it's a militarised country, which is problematic; a very large and powerful country. On the other hand, if you look at concentrations of power, there is New York, Washington, California, broadly speaking, and the South. Texas. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yes. 17:49 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Now, to make that more concrete, seventeen percent (17%) of corporate registrations are in New York, whereas if you look -- and that's the max -- the city with the most. Whereas, if you look at the United Kingdom, more than eighty percent (80%) of corporate registrations are in London, [inaudible ???] are in London. Just imagine how bad the US would be, if for the past four hundred (400) years, Washington was in the same place as New York, as LA, as Houston. UK's a very tightly integrated society, with a conformist, controlling social structure. So we see, in the US, a lot more support for me and WikiLeaks than we do here in the UK, because there's more freedom to be your own thing in the US -- somewhere in the US. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy OK. And in their Constitution. And they feel that and fight for those rights vehemently. 18:54 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, they're rapidly eroding. But, yeah, part of the social make-up has the idea that there should be such a thing as free speech. Obviously, it's being very quickly eroded, but yeah we have-- In practice that is translated to on the ground support -- significant support for us -- within the United States. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy You used to be (or, I read) -- and whether you like the term, I'm not sure -- a hacker. And I read that you were hacking for good, not evil; and that's why authorities were lenient back in the day. What type of -- again, the term 'hacking' -- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks No good deed goes unpunished, right? Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [Laughter] Yes. What type of hacking did you get up to and what made it good? I couldn't really quite understand that bit. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, there's-- I don't like this term. I mean, it's used as a propaganda term. Steve Jobs was also a hacker. Bill Gates was also a hacker. At the same age -- which is, you know, when I was a teenager. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Is there another term you'd like to replace it with? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks No, I don't. I think it's a perfectly nice term. It's been bastardised because now you've got these, you know, Eastern European mafia hacking your grandmother-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [Laughing] Yeah. 20:12 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks So people don't like it. But in terms of exploring the early internet, before, you know, normal people were allowed on the internet, while it was still a military and research object, yeah, I was there, you know, reading Pentagon generals' e-mails each night when I was seventeen. And it starts to give you a-- You know, Australia's a pretty isolated place, so it starts to -- it allows you to, sort of, see a little bit about how the world is actually structured from the inside. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Can you remember that feeling, when you first got in and you realised that you could go in and read the Pentagon's e-mails? Can you remember that feeling? 20:56 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Yeah, it's a sort of buzz that you get that is like, you know, like any kind of -- like parachuting or something like that. The same adrenalin producing activity-- Andy Lee Hamish & Andy --exhilarating. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks --but -- but, also has an intellectual and political side. So it's also a buzz associated with learning, not just the risk of the experience but, you know, that you're learning about the world in some important way. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy For someone so-- Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks It is a-- it is quite an amazing thing to be involved in, especially then. Now everyone can go onto the internet. You know, you can get half that. Half that. But, you know, reaching out into the world and understanding information. You know, we can all log onto the internet and do a lot of that now, but back then the internet in Australia was only available to computer hackers and a couple of research institutes. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy [Laughter] Which is incredible. For someone so well informed about the cyber world, do you think our society is too exposed online and, you know, the lay person here and people that aren't super into it -- and our audience may or may not be -- but, from my perspective, I never really know how exposed we are. What do you see the threats there for just everyday people? 22:12 Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Look, it's really serious in the long-term. For everyday people, there's a practical reality. The big American internet companies -- Google, Facebook etc -- are constantly recording and intercepting what you're doing. Because if you think you're just using Google when you go to Google search pages, it's not true. It has trackers embedded in most websites, because it has deals with most websites to supply the ads of those websites, or tracking software that the websites use to collect statistics and so on, and it powers most smartphones. So the activity on your smartphone goes to Google. It collects all that. And then the National Security Agency ('NSA') and the FBI in the United States then stick their fangs into Google's data repositories and Facebook's as well, and they also have their own massive surveillance operation, and the Australian government through the ASD -- the Australian Signals Directorate -- also intercepts a lot of information as it goes in and out of the country -- in bulk -- and then exchanges this through what is known as the Five Eyes alliance, which is the alliance of intelligence agencies led by the United States, the NSA, in the Anglo-Christian countries. It's probably, you know, unfamiliar with your listeners, but one of the great structuring principles of the world is what the relationships are between the deep states of various countries. So between the intelligence agencies of the countries. 24:03 And there's a really intimate integration between Australia, the United States, the UK, New Zealand, and Canada, that has been around for -- well, essentially, since post World War II -- that has developed an ever stronger bond as time has gone by. So, in some sense, we should look at those five countries on a geopolitical level as the one country. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Yeah, I understand that. So everyday use of our smart phones is essentially writing files on us and giving it straight to them. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Well, yeah, either because the traffic from your phone is going through these mass interception points that these various countries have set up, where data ingresses or egresses a country, goes across some fibre optic cable under the ocean, or because -- and the second factor, is starting to become more of a problem than the first one -- or because, Google is running your smartphone or you're using Facebook services. And those large data repositories are accessible, not only by those companies and their affiliates, but by those jurisdictions. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Ah, Julian, I know I've gone over time but I just want to warp it up. A couple of things. Has your Spanish improved being there at the embassy? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks A bit. But, you know, I'm someone who, unfortunately, is constantly working in English. So it does distract your language ability when you're focused in one so heavily. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy And, I know that you were at North Queensland, when you were in Australia -- when you grew up -- ummm, are you aware that the North Queensland Cowboys won the NRL final? Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks I am not. I am not, but I'm pleased. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy They did on the Weekend. On Sunday. So I thought -- I was hoping I'd be the first person to tell you. I know you're not number one ticket holder, but congratulations to you and your people up there. [Laughter] Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks Thanks. Andy Lee Hamish & Andy Julian, thank you, mate. The WikiLeaks Files, out now everybody. Published by Verso and available at Booktopia and also in good bookshops. Have a great day, and you're a very fascinating man. I can very much appreciate how you've stuck to your guns. It's inspiring. Well done. Julian Assange Publisher WikiLeaks OK. Thanks, Andy. Bye, Bye. 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